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Re: Petition to Stop Transsexuals from Using Female Profiles  

kzoopair 73M/71F
25831 posts
8/8/2016 7:58 am

    Quoting anastasia666:
    Hello RB,

    I can not call you the B word when you are no where near the description of that word. I ask myself all the time, with everything this site has gone through over the yrs..the sale to P House, then Andrew coming back and now this. The one thing all members should do is treat each other with respect and tolerance. This is an adult site after all and not Kindergarten or Jr High popularity contest. I have watched the site lose wonderful members, male and female who just left or were bullied & abused into leaving. I keep seeing messages from men all over the site..."WHERE are the real women / people at ? " Instead of sitting on top of an empty blogging throne, she should be encouraging REAL people to stay, to be respectful and tolerant of ALL members or she will be soon be all alone on that empty throne sitting on her blogs with no one to look at her or soothe the fragile ego.. Yes, also noticed the other blog making fun of the LBGTQ community by one of her " men ." At least the site can now see what these abusive members are up to and put a stop to it. Olympics are awesome & am enjoying it all Happy Mon , Ana6
If the site were worthless all this would be a moot point. Members would treat it as just another sleazy porn site and move on. Many do already, and the behavior you describe contributes to that.

I think though that Conru was on to something when he started the site, and for me the best part of it is in the blogs. This has been a very good blogging venue and it's worth fixing. We have a remarkable amount of freedom of expression here. Bigotry and abuse don't need to be a part of that speech, and can't be if the site is going to be inclusive. When they are, it turns into a free for all where the meanest son of a bitch always wins.

The Active Blogs List needs to change. It won't end the competition for numbers but it will stop showcasing it.

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anastasia666 46F
2231 posts
8/9/2016 2:35 am

    Quoting kzoopair:
    If the site were worthless all this would be a moot point. Members would treat it as just another sleazy porn site and move on. Many do already, and the behavior you describe contributes to that.

    I think though that Conru was on to something when he started the site, and for me the best part of it is in the blogs. This has been a very good blogging venue and it's worth fixing. We have a remarkable amount of freedom of expression here. Bigotry and abuse don't need to be a part of that speech, and can't be if the site is going to be inclusive. When they are, it turns into a free for all where the meanest son of a bitch always wins.

    The Active Blogs List needs to change. It won't end the competition for numbers but it will stop showcasing it.
Kzoopair,

Thank you for reinforcing what I've been saying for 6+ yrs. I never thought this site was worthless, if I did, I would not be fighting so hard to get things fixed, to protect members and talk to management.This site was created to let people have a free, safe environment to make connections, network, make friends and have fun. Andrew created Blings and fought to keep them here..same with the blogs. He loves creativity and he wants this bullying & nonsense to end. He and I had a very long discussion about the attack on Nice and what that cost this site in great members we can not afford to lose. You are right we need to change that active blog list. Without it, No member has a reason (and never had the right to do so) to bully more popular members. I can not understand what drives some members to engage in such horrible behavior. I think we need to have the TOU posted everywhere on site. I am a great believer in second chances but right now, I am out of patience with the troublemakers on this site.

Happy Tues,

Ana6

I done made the devil a deal
He made me pretty
He made me smart


anastasia666 46F
2231 posts
8/9/2016 2:59 am

    Quoting  :

Hello RB,

Happy Tues. I have done what I can over the yrs to advise men on the best ways to approach the ladies. Using them, dick pix, and one word emails are a Giant NO..so using women as mere holes or insulting other women because they are trying to please a blogger is ALL WRONG. They claim they join this site to make friends & meet women then start posting blogs against female members or comment on disgusting blogs meant to humiliate a woman blogger. I agree, this kind of grotesque behavior can not be allowed or tolerated any further. Had the situation been reversed and the blogger who started this mess been on the receiving end of the hatred she fueled against others..She would be screaming for this site to shut down, cancel memberships and ban everyone from being a member here. You'd think one, just one of her " friends " would take her aside and say " Stop the hate & grateful for what you have. " No Member should have to put up with this kind of stupidity and cruelty. I hope we can end this nonsense NOW.

Happy Tues,

Ana6

I done made the devil a deal
He made me pretty
He made me smart


kzoopair 73M/71F
25831 posts
8/9/2016 10:40 am

    Quoting anastasia666:
    Kzoopair,

    Thank you for reinforcing what I've been saying for 6+ yrs. I never thought this site was worthless, if I did, I would not be fighting so hard to get things fixed, to protect members and talk to management.This site was created to let people have a free, safe environment to make connections, network, make friends and have fun. Andrew created Blings and fought to keep them here..same with the blogs. He loves creativity and he wants this bullying & nonsense to end. He and I had a very long discussion about the attack on Nice and what that cost this site in great members we can not afford to lose. You are right we need to change that active blog list. Without it, No member has a reason (and never had the right to do so) to bully more popular members. I can not understand what drives some members to engage in such horrible behavior. I think we need to have the TOU posted everywhere on site. I am a great believer in second chances but right now, I am out of patience with the troublemakers on this site.

    Happy Tues,

    Ana6
I appreciate your comments here, your interaction with us about this and your efforts to make positive changes. I know very well we can't eradicate all bad behavior and the site probably wouldn't be much fun if if it were rigidly policed to ban every incendiary remark or rude post. The harassment that nicelipss endured and her subsequent suspension crossed a line of basic decency that was also timely- it mirrored the scapegoating of gay and transgendered people in the nation at large. That it was done in competition for the top spot on the list made it high profile.

Which brings us back again to the list, which I'm inclined to keep bitching about. I want to see that list changed. I'm open to suggestions about what form a new list might take, but I'm sure something that at least dampens the competition for numbers can be devised. At present we aren't even able to discuss the recent change- for the worse- in the list because site support is still in denial about it. Firstly, that it had changed at all, and secondly that it had ever been sorted differently. How do you have a talk with someone who insists on denying the obvious? Are the blogs that unimportant to them?

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anastasia666 46F
2231 posts
8/10/2016 5:30 am

    Quoting kzoopair:
    I appreciate your comments here, your interaction with us about this and your efforts to make positive changes. I know very well we can't eradicate all bad behavior and the site probably wouldn't be much fun if if it were rigidly policed to ban every incendiary remark or rude post. The harassment that nicelipss endured and her subsequent suspension crossed a line of basic decency that was also timely- it mirrored the scapegoating of gay and transgendered people in the nation at large. That it was done in competition for the top spot on the list made it high profile.

    Which brings us back again to the list, which I'm inclined to keep bitching about. I want to see that list changed. I'm open to suggestions about what form a new list might take, but I'm sure something that at least dampens the competition for numbers can be devised. At present we aren't even able to discuss the recent change- for the worse- in the list because site support is still in denial about it. Firstly, that it had changed at all, and secondly that it had ever been sorted differently. How do you have a talk with someone who insists on denying the obvious? Are the blogs that unimportant to them?
Dear Kzoopair,

Happy Wed Thank you for your kind words & message. Thank you for allowing us all to share our thoughts on this situation. I am in total agreement with you about the abuse & that darn list. Years back I was talking to the head of legal dept and I was mentioning some abuse ( which was light and nothing like what Nice & Our LBGTQ community have faced here ) and he and I agreed that a chat room brew ha ha involving " You're a B*&&&.." was NOT a banning offense but that was yrs ago when this place was full of amazing members and the insults were about that level.. Now the abuse and bullying has reached levels I have never seen. ( and believe me, on this site, I've seen just about everything )

The thing that just frustrates me is what I keep going back to. Men joined this site to meet, talk and perhaps go out with the Women who are on this site...Ok I get that...I am not here to date but to help..as a Woman if I see a man calling any woman or man insulting names, degrading them, making fun of them..I would walk away as fast as I could from that member and quietly let all the women members know that this was NOT the kind of man they want to spend time with. In the end the insulting man thinks he is so cool & awesome for hurting, bullying and abusing women and then wonders why NONE of the women he sends messages to reply. As a Woman I believe in supporting and cheering on my friends & fellow women. I LOVE seeing one of my friends or a woman I admire receive attention in a positive light. How great a feeling that is. It would never occur to me to be upset because another woman has a higher position then I do on that blasted list. Yes, I noticed the Blog list mess and the glitch and am about to send Andrew another alert on the need to change or just get rid of the damm thing. Instead of showing us all a large group of blogs we might not have seen or read, it has created a jealous chasm with members pitted against each other. The site does care about our blogging community. After all the Bloggers are the most vocal members on site, are the members first to notice and report a bad incident or glitch. I have seen members be thanked by the site time and time again for catching something they missed.

I promise you EVERYTHING is being reported and compiled into a large report for management to see. There will be changes. Once again, I won't give up.

Happy Wed,

Ana6

I done made the devil a deal
He made me pretty
He made me smart


anastasia666 46F
2231 posts
8/10/2016 5:46 am

    Quoting  :

Hello RB,

Happy Wed Things good here, thanks for asking and I hope the same for you. I am aware and I promise you, so is the site/abuse about exactly how much this member has said and done. I also heard when members posted on the obscene petition in a negative light..those remarks were deleted and members banned. I have heard of women who do not like or tolerate other women but I am not friends with anyone like that. When I was a kid I had a pal like that who would talk to me but ignore any girl who walked up to me and stare at them as if they were not there. She just explained " I do not like women " I was so young it made no sense to me. It still doesn't. Some women just do not like other women or feel jealous if folks like them better. No amount of " Please Behave and Play Nice " will work. The Blogger & her entourage are set in Their ways. As I said to KZoopair, the site is aware ,Andrew knows, there are things going on behind the scenes and hopefully very soon this will all be a very bad memory.

Have a wonderful #WickedWed,

Ana6

I done made the devil a deal
He made me pretty
He made me smart


anastasia666 46F
2231 posts
8/11/2016 7:00 am

    Quoting  :

Hi Missy,

Happy Thurs. Thank you for drawing our attn to these so called Blogs which are nothing but a sick cry for attn. Believe Me, the site is aware of what is going on. I promise you a fix to this problem is on its way. Thank you for sharing the link to the jackass blog post where the gentleman apologized for his mistake in dealing with that petition. Proud of a member who chose to stand up and publicly apologize for his actions.

Have a Great day,

Ana6

I done made the devil a deal
He made me pretty
He made me smart


anastasia666 46F
2231 posts
8/11/2016 7:04 am

    Quoting  :

Dear RB,

Happy Thurs I am proud of you and all the wonderful members who stood up for Nice. That took great courage and truly shows what great members we have on this site. I have been telling management this for yrs..Thanks to all of you for proving me right NEVER stop speaking about something and someone you feel passionate about. You are so right. In the Real world the actions of a few here would not be tolerated for one moment.

Have an awesome Day ,

Ana6

I done made the devil a deal
He made me pretty
He made me smart


kzoopair 73M/71F
25831 posts
8/16/2016 11:24 am

    Quoting  :

It isn't nothing to keep on doing the right thing and not give up. So many people get weary of it and quit in despair. A lot more never even start. Whatever good comes of this, you deserve a lot of the credit for making it happen. Don't sell yourself short.

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anastasia666 46F
2231 posts
8/17/2016 4:15 am

    Quoting  :

Dear RB,

Thank you for this lovely message. i hope that no other member will have to suffer as Nice did due to the bullies/blog list. I promise you and all our members that I will do everything in my power to help protect ALL against those who seek to harm , bully, lie, threaten or stalk.

Hugs & MANY Thanks for the Beautiful Post you did in my Name,

Ana6

I done made the devil a deal
He made me pretty
He made me smart


kzoopair 73M/71F
25831 posts
8/24/2016 5:06 pm

    Quoting  :

You get it, where many fail to understand! Thanks for that comment, ass lover.

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fordfire4 48M  
284 posts
8/24/2016 8:58 pm

Kzoopair, I have a very good friend that happens to be transgender, born female, identifies male. He absolutely HATES the "bathroom law" movement. He and I talked about Target's bathroom policy and he stopped shopping there because of it. As he stated "a month ago, people didn't understand me because of my identity, but now because of these laws and policies, they hate me" And he brought up a very valid point, most people that are opposed to the laws are opposed to tgem because it does literally open the door for pedophiles and sex offenders. He showed me a case in Missouri that happened at Target. Their bathroom policy went into effect on a Friday, on Monday, a registered sex offender and convicted pedophile was arrested in the women's changing room holding his cell phone over the top of the wall and videotaping and 11 year old girl as she changed. This disgusting individual took advantage of the policy and an 11 year old girl paid the price. When police questioned the employees as to why they let the man in the women's changing room, their answer was "because of the new policy, we weren't allowed to stop him because we might have offended him". I am 100% for non discrimination and for equal rights, but I agree with my friend Mike when he says that the bathroom laws are not the place to start. He has worked with many of the schools here to develop policies for transgender students on this and they are working out well, from using the "family bathroom" to using single stall faculty restrooms if a family bathroom us not available.


kzoopair 73M/71F
25831 posts
8/24/2016 9:33 pm

    Quoting fordfire4:
    Kzoopair, I have a very good friend that happens to be transgender, born female, identifies male. He absolutely HATES the "bathroom law" movement. He and I talked about Target's bathroom policy and he stopped shopping there because of it. As he stated "a month ago, people didn't understand me because of my identity, but now because of these laws and policies, they hate me" And he brought up a very valid point, most people that are opposed to the laws are opposed to tgem because it does literally open the door for pedophiles and sex offenders. He showed me a case in Missouri that happened at Target. Their bathroom policy went into effect on a Friday, on Monday, a registered sex offender and convicted pedophile was arrested in the women's changing room holding his cell phone over the top of the wall and videotaping and 11 year old girl as she changed. This disgusting individual took advantage of the policy and an 11 year old girl paid the price. When police questioned the employees as to why they let the man in the women's changing room, their answer was "because of the new policy, we weren't allowed to stop him because we might have offended him". I am 100% for non discrimination and for equal rights, but I agree with my friend Mike when he says that the bathroom laws are not the place to start. He has worked with many of the schools here to develop policies for transgender students on this and they are working out well, from using the "family bathroom" to using single stall faculty restrooms if a family bathroom us not available.
If your friend disagrees with laws like the one passed in North Carolina, then your friend and I agree. But I don't see how Target's bathroom policy opens up any door for pedophiles and sex offenders that wasn't already open. And I can't see how North Carolina's law closes any door that was not already closed.

If employees at Target failed to do their jobs, that is indeed Target's responsibility.

What I see is that transgendered persons are being scapegoated to further the careers of conservative politicians who love nothing more than a chance to thumb their noses at the Obama administration by defying the guidelines set forth in answer to issues regarding bathroom use by transgendered students in American schools. The safety of other bathroom users was never further from their minds. If you can point me to that news item I'd love to read it. But all I was able to locate are stories on the American Family Values website, along with a few other right wing websites, and I don't credit those at all. It doesn't surprise me a bit that the only sources I could locate are all right wing socially conservative sites. I wonder if they might have some agenda?

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kzoopair 73M/71F
25831 posts
8/28/2016 7:31 pm

    Quoting  :

Good call, cheyennerhayn2. I'd like to see more of you in here.

Maybe some day people will just have sex with anyone they want and not have to explain themselves. Or Label themselves.

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kzoopair 73M/71F
25831 posts
8/29/2016 8:37 am

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No. You go, girl. You're doing just fine! Don't even think of backing off.

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kzoopair 73M/71F
25831 posts
8/29/2016 4:55 pm

    Quoting  :

Please come back and finish reading. This post turned into a sort of impromptu open forum. I ended up just being the moderator. I LIKED hosting this, and I was pleased that so many people felt strongly enough about it to comment and engage, and that so many were willing to show support for a well loved and respected blogger.

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nicelipss66 48F
24236 posts
8/30/2016 12:26 pm

I am glad to see that the awful petition didn't work for her. the whole thing was painful to read. Targeting people for their gender or sexual orientation is NEVER good. I am so glad that members in their grand majority said NO to it. and that Adult Dating zone said NO to it as well. Things like that evil wrong petition and other evil things she said. Those were the things that sink her own ship. I am so glad and thankful that Adult Dating zone saw everything for what it is.

Hope you are having a good day Bill. things are good here my friend


kzoopair 73M/71F
25831 posts
8/30/2016 1:23 pm

    Quoting nicelipss66:
    I am glad to see that the awful petition didn't work for her. the whole thing was painful to read. Targeting people for their gender or sexual orientation is NEVER good. I am so glad that members in their grand majority said NO to it. and that Adult Dating zone said NO to it as well. Things like that evil wrong petition and other evil things she said. Those were the things that sink her own ship. I am so glad and thankful that Adult Dating zone saw everything for what it is.

    Hope you are having a good day Bill. things are good here my friend
Thalia, my friend, I'm glad to see that Petition gone too, and I'm ready to put it behind me. That doesn't mean I'll forget it. I'll never forget what we did here and what you did here. It might not have worked for a different person than you. You had integrity and courage and you fought back with dignity. I'm very proud of you and I'm proud to call you my friend.

Now, let's have some fun!

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rm_HUGEDIMYASS 55M
16 posts
9/20/2016 2:43 am

I WISH I NEVER WONDERED INTO THIS BLOG. ME I DO NOT CARE WHAT OTHER PEOPLE DO. I AM NOT A COP NOR AM I THERE MOMMY OR DADDY. SO I ALWAYS TAKE MY MOTHER ADVICE, " MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS. I AM NOT TRYING TO GET ON ANYBODY'S SIDE, EXCEPT DID YOU EVER HEAR THE EXPRESSION. " LIVE AND LET DIE ".

" PEACE OUT "


kzoopair 73M/71F
25831 posts
9/20/2016 7:57 am

    Quoting rm_HUGEDIMYASS:
    I WISH I NEVER WONDERED INTO THIS BLOG. ME I DO NOT CARE WHAT OTHER PEOPLE DO. I AM NOT A COP NOR AM I THERE MOMMY OR DADDY. SO I ALWAYS TAKE MY MOTHER ADVICE, " MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS. I AM NOT TRYING TO GET ON ANYBODY'S SIDE, EXCEPT DID YOU EVER HEAR THE EXPRESSION. " LIVE AND LET DIE ".
"I ALWAYS TAKE MY MOTHER ADVICE, " MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS."

So why aren't you doing that?
Do you know your caps lock is stuck on?

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TraciVa 63T
10 posts
9/20/2016 10:28 am

Idiotic...we are what we are and hide nothing...most of us love life and do our best to blend into society. All we ask is a fair shake at life just like you or any other person.
Frankly, it's silly the way some "compete" in here...
#LoveLife
Xoxo


kzoopair 73M/71F
25831 posts
9/20/2016 2:10 pm

    Quoting TraciVa:
    Idiotic...we are what we are and hide nothing...most of us love life and do our best to blend into society. All we ask is a fair shake at life just like you or any other person.
    Frankly, it's silly the way some "compete" in here...
    #LoveLife
    Xoxo
It's certainly silly much of the time, but that petition went far beyond silly and over the line into harassment. I know nicelipss66 to be honest and I could not watch her be abused as she was.

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kzoopair 73M/71F
25831 posts
10/11/2016 4:22 pm

    Quoting  :

Frankly- many of us commenting here have been referred to as bullies and "blog police" for speaking out against this nastiness. That's bullshit of course, but people don't like to have unpleasantness talked about. They often want to pretend it isn't happening because it didn't happen to THEM, right? They want to go on having "fun"- you know, gay bashing, trans bashing and generally acting like ignorant bigots. Fortunately, there were enough bloggers here with a working conscience that stuck to their principles and sense of decency. We got Thalia back on the site and the site has made a commitment to stop the harassment as soon as it starts in the future. This site of all sites should be tolerant of our differing sexuality and be inclusive of all preferences and all the many gender identities.

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kzoopair 73M/71F
25831 posts
10/11/2016 4:24 pm

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I'm hoping that too and they need help in doing it. When you see something evil the right thing to do is to speak up about it.

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kzoopair 73M/71F
25831 posts
1/23/2017 5:49 am

    Quoting rh1972:
    Pure garbage!

    If I respond to a woman's profile, and I find out she's a tranny, I've been lied to! Just like a couple's profile where there's no woman, I've been lied to.

    You can pretend to be a woman all you want, but you're not. No self-belief will ever change that. It's scientific fact; you can't change your DNA.

    Why would you want to lie to other people anyways?
Your attitude is ill informed and narrow minded. If you took the trouble to educate yourself about gender dysphoria your ignorance might be cured, but fixing your bad attitude will take more work than just learning the facts about what it means to be transgendered. Maybe you see garbage here where instead there is compassion because your heart and head are so full of self centered trash.

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