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seems6666 53F  
4838 posts
7/1/2021 11:06 am

    Quoting bearcatbearcat:
    Well, why would someone go to so much effort to publicly mock men?
    I am sure readers can draw their own inferences.

    In our culture, men are indoctrinated, and women benefit hugely from this, then women complain about the side effects.

    Men are told "Only losers quit" "Only girls cry" "Be a man, suck it up" "Don't take no for an answer, keep trying"

    When you want to insult a man, you call him a "pussy", weak.
    There is no corollary insult toward women.
    Our culture requires men to be sacrificial animals and it is bullshit.

    When was the last time a woman took all the risk with you, gentlemen? Expressed interest, asked you out, paid for everything, initiated the first sexual contact?

    Never. Women do not even remotely understand the male experience, and heap contempt upon anyone who voices it.

    Women don't experience the constant competition and rejection that men do. Nature arranged it this way. Nature needs only a few males to breed with the many females, to perpetuate the species.

    In our culture, the overwhelming majority of men are insanely fighting over an inadequate supply of pussy.

    There will never be enough money, popularity, muscles, house, car, status to get all the pussy you want. Never. Because there is too much competition, and, because of nature.

    Women whine about being betrayed by a cheating husband or boyfriend. I do not condone cheating or breaking promises. But wake up. He does not stare at the waitress ass because he wants HER instead of YOU.

    That is female thinking. Females sort and reject, sort and reject, then enslave one sucker to provide and protect.

    No, nature means he wants to fuck other women IN ADDITION to you.

    This is NATURAL and NORMAL but women shame this.

    Bottom line: CULTURE AND A HUGE PERCENTAGE OF WOMEN tell men that "You have to EARN my pussy and keep trying no matter what"

    You can't ask for a man with traits he had to fight for, such as money, status, looks, if you then turn around and SPIT on that trait of ambition when it is aimed in your direction.
Well that's a load of bollox for a start... I have and do initiate contact, sex, and i'm always happy go dutch on a date, sometimes I have even paid!! I KNOW.! IT REALLY DOES HAPPEN! Yes. men like to look at other women but the line is drawn at LOOKING .. any man worth keeping would look DISCRETELY but not act upon his urges..and if he does act, then there is something fundamentally wrong with his relationship .I believe we have passed the Neanderthal stage of man,,, but sometimes hearing and seeing what men do and say on here.. I do wonder!
I don't call men "pussy's" ...I call them wankers and if I'm seriously pissed of I might throw in an "asshole". As for men's insults to women.. well "cunt" "slag" "whore" immediately spring to mind


seems6666 53F  
4838 posts
7/1/2021 11:10 am

    Quoting jajo696:
    Oh La...what have we got here. Geeze I choose not to give the ole negative one any air or energy. I call it the ..response to Heathen approach... lol

    Ok...my opinion is : determination is when one listens, actively listens to understand NOT to formulate a response, gives it a thought or two and comes back a while later with a different approach/ angle. Like he listens to your parameters and finds a way to incorporate them and or work around them. Like he says..." ok, im off the summer let me move in with a friend there for 3 months" could we try then ? " I think that determination can be a good thing, it also speaks to the listening skills and how much effort one can put forth.
    Pushy is when one is intractable in their quest, over n over . No movement and not even trying for compromise~
I gave him some shit! what a wonky donkey ... and stop press .. Heathen was back a few weeks ago... well he viewed me.. so you don't really know if he is back or not ,, but he seems to have gone again!


seems6666 53F  
4838 posts
7/1/2021 11:11 am

    Quoting jajo696:
    Oh La...what have we got here. Geeze I choose not to give the ole negative one any air or energy. I call it the ..response to Heathen approach... lol

    Ok...my opinion is : determination is when one listens, actively listens to understand NOT to formulate a response, gives it a thought or two and comes back a while later with a different approach/ angle. Like he listens to your parameters and finds a way to incorporate them and or work around them. Like he says..." ok, im off the summer let me move in with a friend there for 3 months" could we try then ? " I think that determination can be a good thing, it also speaks to the listening skills and how much effort one can put forth.
    Pushy is when one is intractable in their quest, over n over . No movement and not even trying for compromise~
OOOH OOOH! MAYBE he is Heathen


Tmptrzz 61F  
107039 posts
7/1/2021 12:24 pm

Well hun you have to be firm with people as some people just don't understand when we say NO or NOT INTERESTED. My hubby calls it being a nice bitch.

And it's not your fault that he doesn't understand NOT INTERESTED. I say ignore him from now on and move one..I hope you enjoy your Thursday,..

Seduce the mind and see what a wonderful adventure the body will take you on..


pagancountrygirl 66F  
6466 posts
7/1/2021 3:25 pm

"OOOH OOOH! MAYBE he is Heathen "

I was thinking that very thing since the vitriol he's spewing is very similar to what Heathen would spout.

Pagan
Hmmmm....I know I left that wand around here somewhere!


smartasswoman 66F  
35813 posts
7/1/2021 4:35 pm

I was going to say that a third message would probably be my border of where ‘determined’ crosses over into being pushy and a pain in the ass.

But there have been times when I’ve continued a conversation with someone who doesn’t fit my parameters, past that point. If they have something interesting to say. There was a younger guy who I chatted with about books...but then, actually he wasn’t being pushy about meeting.

I liked what jajo had to say...it definitely makes a difference if the messager is truly listening to your response and trying to address objections in a respectful way.

By the way, I reached your same conclusion about the guys two hours away, a long time ago. My experience was that they always started out saying that they were willing to drive a long way, but that didn’t pan out past one or two meets.


New2Midlo 54M
1075 posts
7/1/2021 4:51 pm

Who let this schmuck off his meds?


New2Midlo 54M
1075 posts
7/1/2021 5:02 pm

There is no clear answer to your question, LaLa, because someone's behavior is defined by perception; yours, his, mine, the dickhead who needed to post 412 times. He considered himself to be persistent, and you have to be persistent to get what you want in life.

You clearly see him as pushy, otherwise you wouldn't have asked the question.

I see him as rude. You made your feelings clear, both in your profile and via message, and he blatantly ignored them. I would have hit the block button on him after the second exchange.

A smart man, who actually did get what he wanted, would have accepted your decision, then proceeded to seduce you with his words until you reversed course. And in my experience, 'Oh, come on!' rarely works.


New2Midlo 54M
1075 posts
7/1/2021 5:15 pm

Holy fuck!

Read your blog before I checked my own and the moron o' the day had apparently already trolled mine, too!

What say you? Block the schmuck or leave him around for readers to take their best shots at him?


lonlyforlove2 81M  
32704 posts
7/1/2021 5:33 pm

    Quoting New2Midlo:
    Holy fuck!

    Read your blog before I checked my own and the moron o' the day had apparently already trolled mine, too!

    What say you? Block the schmuck or leave him around for readers to take their best shots at him?
Just call him Heathen, all remember that one.. Have a good one.

Stop by at lonlyforlove2
also see Lunch with Lonly , we get snow tomorrow
Check my blog on New Community, "A photo of my big Pecker"
also, " My Sunday afternoon with the kids'


PonyGirl1965 58F
22090 posts
7/1/2021 10:14 pm

If he is respectful in his words, I tolerate pushyness far longer. If they are crude, I don't tolerate it period.
IF, IF this guy seems like he MIGHT be someone you would like ... I MIGHT agree to meet him once. MAYBE.
I completely understand you wanting someone local. OKC is big enough you should be able to find a decent local man.


jajo696 113F
4287 posts
7/1/2021 11:36 pm

    Quoting seems6666:
    OOOH OOOH! MAYBE he is Heathen
Seems....ya he WAS back a few weeks ago, he commented on a few blogs. Yet now seems to have disappeared , unless , well you know. lol

takes all kinds...yaknow ~


glidecc 49M  
1224 posts
7/3/2021 3:55 pm

Hey there, stranger.

A person can be persistent if they know someone well enough to feel like their persistence could benefit both of them. However, I'm curious as to why someone who didn't really know you felt it was appropriate to be persistent.

You set clear boundaries that he crossed three times so I'm going to consider his action pushy.


exsquid46 64M
640 posts
7/4/2021 12:48 am

Well, only you can answer what is determined or pushy. what one would see as determined, another would see as pushy.

Personally, if I hear a no or a no thank you from a woman, that ends it . No need to ask again.

We all have our personal boundaries and limits,


flannel_light 61F
4586 posts
7/4/2021 12:34 pm

For me I had someone here asking me out and I told him twice , I was not interested and then he started asking every time he saw. I was on chat and after I tell someone No twice that should be it, anything more that that is being too pushy. Only you can decide on how much is enough for you. Good luck

The Light is shinning and she is lonely and waiting in the darkness.


Mdonson57 63M
504 posts
7/12/2021 4:16 am

The first “not interested” is sufficient for me to not bother a person again. 3 is exceedingly rude and not persistent.

MDonson
Kiik Myonguy


RunItBack80 43M
34 posts
7/15/2021 1:09 pm

If a woman tells me that she is "not interested" or "I'm not her type", I thank her for her consideration and cease pursuing her at that point. This is really simple, "NO" means "NO" for both Men and Women.


RunItBack80 43M
34 posts
7/15/2021 2:09 pm

    Quoting RunItBack80:
    If a woman tells me that she is "not interested" or "I'm not her type", I thank her for her consideration and cease pursuing her at that point. This is really simple, "NO" means "NO" for both Men and Women.
Correction: for Anyone.


lunchandconvo 53F  
4034 posts
7/15/2021 8:31 pm

oh gah!
i hear ya!

i am in savannah. and i get guys/ couples contact me from charleston sc.
it's two hours away. maybe.
but it's all back roads.

i've done a SC meet before.
but these days i am working a 6 day schedule.
on my day off i want to roll over and maybe have a nice lunch.
i do not want to drive hours for that lunch!!!

and so the youngun was all like i would drive to you.
but i don't host.

when it's pushy is up to you.
i have a few i don't reply to and constantly get messages. the ones that get me are the ones who are like "remember me?" well. i save all my messages... so if there is no message before the remember me why would i remember this person?


Joejo613 58M  
46 posts
7/20/2021 7:22 am

Hello, I had to write the answer to this question three times because my phone isn't working and my PC is hard to manage. But I like the question and I want to answer it.

The difference between persistent and pushy are clear and evident to both parties. You as the victim know when your limits are exceeded. But, the offender also feels and hears your anxiety and aggravation. Those body signals are universal. But they continue their pressure to see if the victim will back down. It's a dual of will or character. So, The moment your limit, personal space or tolerance is exceeded that is where pushy begins and the offender knows they are doing it.

𝓣𝓱𝓮 𝓸𝓷𝓵𝔂 𝓽𝓱𝓲𝓷𝓰 𝓫𝓮𝓽𝓽𝓮𝓻 𝓽𝓱𝓪𝓷 𝓼𝓮𝔁 𝓲𝓼 𝓹𝓮𝓷 𝓽𝓸 𝓹𝓪𝓹𝓮𝓻 𝓪𝓷𝓭 𝓪𝓷 𝓮𝔁𝓹𝓵𝓸𝓼𝓲𝓸𝓷 𝓸𝓯 𝓹𝓻𝓸𝓼𝓮. - 𝓙𝓸𝓼𝓮𝓹𝓱


MyHeartLost4U 59M
2487 posts
8/14/2021 6:32 pm

At what point does determination and persistence become being pushy?

First time telling someone "I'm Not Interested" and reasons, is Strike One....

Second time telling them "I'm Not Interested" with detailed reasons, is Strike Two...

Third time with them trying to Push the issue again, would be consider disrespecting me with crossing the line and is Strike Three...for being "Pushy".


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